ryan went to a soup kitchen in ohio after the patrons were gone and put on a crispy white apron and appeared to wash dishes that looked clean. later said they were dirty. mitt romney has to look presidential at times when it would be tempting to do a photo op. to remind you that both campaigns have a real feeling of trepidation at the moment. you pointed out numbers that looked good for romney. but that north carolina poll that you showed, romney tied right before the election, and politico, the carl rove group, up at eight states including north carolina, not a good sign, and fascinatingly, they are not advertising wisconsin, karl rove thinks it's not going to happen for mitt romney considerably narrowing his options. >> what do you make, mike, of what we were talking about earlier? pennsylvania and minnesota attracting money from both campaigns and valuable time from president clinton? >> yeah, it's insurance by them, but i think you made a great point. the bill clinton in minnesota, an astonishing piece of resources. pennsylvania more just to keep it -- to keep the gap there from